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Question: Do you think health and saftey is going too far?

Asked by geoff to AndrewL, Andrew, Emma, Marianne, Paula on 15 Jun 2010 in Categories: .

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  • Photo: Andrew LeitchAndrew Leitch answered on 15 Jun 2010:

    Not in our line of work. It needs to be really rigorous because if something goes wrong you have to be sure you did everything to prevent it. If you’re talking about having to wear full body armour when you play conkers in the playground then yes!

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  • Photo: Andrew MaynardAndrew Maynard answered on 15 Jun 2010:

    Hi geoff,

    I don’t know – people who have been hurt at work or the families of people who have been hurt or killed would say it doesn’t go far enough! But it is annoying when some officious health and safety person tells you you can’t do something interesting “because it’s not safe”

    I think there needs to be a good balance here, and scientists also need to learn to be responsible so they don’t hurt themselves or others.

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  • Photo: Marianne BakerMarianne Baker answered on 15 Jun 2010:

    It’s something we hear people say a lot, isn’t it!

    I’d answer yes and no, personally.

    We have a lot of measures being implemented in the lab that are really inconvenient for us and don’t seem to do a lot of good.

    On the other hand there are a lot of things we have to do now that are really sensible!
    My mum sometimes talks about how they used to play with mercury at school, on their hands – we’d never do this now because it’s very, very toxic! A really great chemistry teacher at school used to tell us about the mouth-pipetting they did, again really dangerous, you don’t want to suck chemicals into your mouth!

    So in many ways we’re just sensible now, but being overbearing can also have its dangers, I think.

    One thing I really notice is that I don’t pay much attention at all to signs -there are so many everywhere, people stop reading them. This means that really important things often get ignored as well.

    It also seems to stop people thinking for themselves sometimes; people might be throwing away food that’s fine to eat just because it’s past the ‘best before’ date – if it’s clearly gone off, sure, but as a society we’re so wasteful and that really isn’t helping – all because companies are scared of people blaming them if they get sick or hurt themselves and maybe that will then cost them money.

    This is a problem that is partly down to American culture, I think – people are very quick to find someone to blame for anything that goes wrong and bring a lawsuit. I don’t like this attitude and believe people should take more responsibility for themselves.

    On the other hand, companies should always have a duty of care to their employees and health and safety measures at work are a necessary part of that – unfortunately!

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  • Photo: geoffgeoff commented on 18 Jun 2010:

    I think health and saftey is a load of rubbish

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    • Photo: AndrewAndrew commented on 18 Jun 2010:

      Haha – I have a friend called Tim who would agree with you there! But when you get into factories where people do get killed if things aren’t done safely, it can make the difference between life and death.

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      • Photo: geoffgeoff commented on 19 Jun 2010:

        Isn’t it all just common sence though?? :D

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        • Photo: AndrewAndrew commented on 19 Jun 2010:

          You would think so wouldn’t you. But the stats seem to say otherwise. Check out this info from the Health and Safety Executive: In 2008/09 in the UK there were 1.2 million people who believed their illness was related to work. There were 180 work-related deaths, and nearly 132,000 work-related injuries. And get this – it’s reckoned that there were over 29 million days of work lost because of workplace-related health and safety stuff! (http://www.hse.gov.uk/statistics/index.htm)

          Clearly, some peoples’ common sense isn’t working as well as it should :-)

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